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NB: Originally posted elsewhere on the Global Riders Network and appears via syndication.
Hi being fairly new to MTB (bought my bike 15 weeks ago) i am wondering about how long things like chains,casettes, frount sprokets ect. should last? I don't ride in the mud, keep my bike cleanish, and lube the chain every 20-30 km's . Are there any other areas I should pay special attention to?
thanks
Trev
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Any idea how many km's you've done?
I lubed mine after the circuit we did on the weekend where we met you at the start of your training ride - and immediately pulled it off an washed it in kerosene.
The reason was that despite the lube it still felt gritty from the sand/clay mix - the lube process hadn't cleaned the chain at all. The blurb on the back of the lube bottle that says you can do this is just spin IMO.
So I stuck it in a 1L bottle half filled with kerosene, gave it a really good thorough shake for a few minutes, let teh grit settle and pulled it out and repeated in a second bottle of (cleaner) kero, looked it over and ran it through my fingers to make sure it felt smooth and clean (not gritty) - which it did - then put it back on the bike to dry overnight. Gave it a lube tonight and it felt like a bought one.
I've repeated the process with Josh's bike, it's just waiting for the lube to be done tomorrow - a job for Josh.
Soem guys use chain cleaning machines, and these do work - I have one myself. I'm going to continue with the method above for abit longer as it's a lot less messy and time consuming than the other methods I've tried.
You should spend a few bucks and get a chain wear indicator. Get the better quality Park one (there are two). If you get your chain off just as it reaches 0.5% elongation you'll have saved your cassette and chainrings, but if you let it go past 1% the rings and cassette are toast I'm afraid - a new chain will slip when you apply the power.
If you miss changing the chain in time you might as well let it run until they're all completely clapped - just don't borrow your mate's back wheel or they might not be your mate for very long!
I ride 20-40K a week on trails, in the last 12 months been through:
3 middle rings
two big rings
GXP BB (the cheap one)
three or 4 chains
cassette
rear hub
X.9 rear derailleur
set of cables
X.9 rear shifter
a couple sets of pads (I think 2 rear and 1 front)
two sets of pedals (lots of strikes)
countless tyres
had the rear wheel rebuilt once, replaced the whole wheel once
All the suspension bearings need replacing (they creeeek so bad)
I started off with mid specification bits and replaced with better as they wear out( X.9 get replaced with X.0 )
I make sure my chain is clean ( take it off and clean in kero ) and wash the bike after every ride.
To much water can prematurely degrade your drive train, there are some seals on bikes that withstand a lot of water hitting them. But high pressure cleaning was not in their design form (even a garden hose can be to high pressured) Don't automatically lube your chain moments after you've completed washing allow it to dry completely. Try using a thicker chain lube generally the dirtier the ride the more wax you need retained on the chain eg. road bikes don't become 'mud larks' therefore the lubricant is a fine grade (thinner). Kerosene is very good for cleaning by dissolving this is alas also why your re-lubricating might not be penetrating deeply in to the links (almost sounds like a commercial for cleansing lotion) due to residual oil film in the kerosene stopping the wax becoming part of the lubrication process. When ever I use kerosene to clean my chain it will be DAYS before I apply the wax coat on the chain, I want to be sure 100% that there is no residual kerosene in the links. Then I start to build up a large wax content on my drive train and when I wash I try not to direct water stream onto the chain. Cleaning with kerosene only when the build up is unmanageable - I mostly use the wax to wash off the outer grit. A dusty trail ride might require a quick re-application and wipe down there are small bottles of your favourite lube...take one with?
Thanks, I think I have been lacking in the chain cleaning dept. I've done about 1000ks so a new chain was in order, but when the guy at the lbs told me my casett was badly worn i was'nt sure if it was an upsell. Think I'll replace it all inc. middle chain ring and spend a bit more time on maintanance.
Cheers
Trev.
......http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;product=3762;group=115;page=1;pid=191;menuid1=185;menuid2=0;mid=118 will tell you when to change your cassette rather than asking the shop. Together with a chain wear indicator this leaves you in a pretty good position to suss out the replace ment.
Rohloff is the gold standard. While you're there, get their chain checker and a few of their chains which are spposed to last 2-3 times the best of the rest (XTR).
Chitts bike24 link
Whats your gold standard for lube? I cant afford $100 chains, so good lube is the next best thing to prevent premature wear. Oh the double entendres!
Jim